The script gets flipped on this episode of JUST, as Rob and Jes take to the guest seats and our editor, Chris Pappalardo, interviews them. They discuss the nuances of “How America Fractured Into Four Parts” by George Packer, which we highly recommend reading alongside this episode!
0:00 Episode starts
2:08 Jes’s check in
5:28 Rob’s check in
7:24 Chris joins the call
9:11 Rob introduces Chris
11:20 Chris frames the episode
12:15 How do Rob and Jes frame the “four Americas”?
12:25 Rob’s answer
13:55 Jes’s answer
17:33 Who are the people in these archetypes?
19:26 Jes talks about the “real America” archetype
21:00 Interlude
22:02 Where do Rob and Jes place themselves in the Four Americas?
22:09 Rob’s answer
23:11 Jes’s answer
25:52 What are the issues with the “Just America” archetype?
26:39 Rob’s answer
28:44 Jes’s answer
31:09 How do you reach across the line?
31:16 Rob’s answer
33:22 Jes’s answer
36:31 How are Rob and Jes going to show up moving forward?
36:39 Rob’s answer
38:30 Jes’s answer
41:39 Wrap up
42:48 Outro
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Our hosts:
Jes Averhart, cofounder of Black Wallstreet Homecoming
Rob Shields, executive director of the Recity Network.
Our Producer:
Ben Azevedo, owner of Bear Cave Audio
Our Editor
Chris Pappalardo